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Started by Erik Slagter, 13 Oct 2013 11:03

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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #21 MiLo

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 14:02

I've been told that broadcom doesn't make "real" multi-core cpu's for STB'es. It's supposed to be somewhere between core and thread. That's why I chose the safe side and specified "threads" in stead of "cores". As we probably will never know without access to the NDA-documentation, it might be wise to merge the entries.

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From a user perspective, it is irrelevant - in any case, the "threads" or "cores" just show up as separate CPUs. Even cores have to fight each other over memory access and similar things, so even true multicores aren't independent.

On the 400Mhz broadcoms, CPU-intensive calculations (like FFT transforms) would speed up by about 70% when using both cores instead of just one, so saying it is a dual-core is close enough to the truth.
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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #22 Erik Slagter

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 14:07

Changed accordingly (2x).


Edited by Erik Slagter, 14 October 2013 - 14:07.

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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #23 gorski

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 00:55

Wouldn't dual core give 4 outputs in Telnet? (And given the shenanigans re. BOGOMIPS and whatnot (Vu and ET are the 'leaders' in this, it seems), wouldn't the "lowly" and "old" 7413 actually come pretty close to the new, dual thread ones? Not that those STBs (usually) have enough memory... Maybe the new DMM v2s?)

 

All the other - even the newest and strongest ones - show only 2 = dual thread, not core...

 

(All of this is spoken by a lay person, btw... :) Just asking questions... ;) )


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:35

I have one question with regard to OpenPLi images/kernel version/BOX type. This point is not mentionned in the comparisons sharts.

 

One can observe the kernels in use for X-trend are allways very mutch in advance against VU+ one's.

 

Does that mean better performances???


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #25 gorski

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:41

Usually, a newer kernel brings better coverage of newer USB devices etc.

 

For performance, one needs to "optimise" a kernel, they tell us - so newer doesn't automatically mean better, apparently...

 

Then, there's the drivers...

 

Then the GUI...

 

Etc.


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #26 Pr2

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 21:32

Hi,

 

Comparison sheet should be update because it let think that you still actively support Dreamboxes mentionned in the comparison sheet.

 

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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #27 WanWizard

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 21:45

No, it doesn't. They are all marked as "discontinued", and the footnote states we won't support the other models released by DMM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 00:36

Thank you for comparison and specs.

 

Vu+ supports Audio Codec DTS-HD&DTS-HD-MA. ;)

 

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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #29 Erik Slagter

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:45

No, it doesn't. They are all marked as "discontinued", and the footnote states we won't support the other models released by DMM.

I was thinking that too, but it doesn't completely cover our statement about the v1 receivers. I think the note should be expanded about that.


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #30 Erik Slagter

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:58

Thank you for comparison and specs.

 

Vu+ supports Audio Codec DTS-HD&DTS-HD-MA. ;)

 

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Which exact receiver?


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #31 betacentauri

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 13:29

The et9200 also supports DTS-HD, DTS-HD-MA and DTS-HD-HRA, if you want to add that to the comparision sheet.

But I don't know whether DTS-HD is a generic name for DTS-HD-MA and DTS-HD-HRA, or if that is a special codec.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 14:03

No, it doesn't. They are all marked as "discontinued", and the footnote states we won't support the other models released by DMM.

 

Hi,

 

The mention discontinued applys to the production of those boxes, not about Openpli.

The footnot refers to the v2 models.

 

If you read the whole sheet from the beginning, it states: 

 

In these tables below you will find all STB's currently supported by the OpenPLi team,....

 

Then the first STB are the DMM ones... the page needs to be reorganised and clearly mention the Openpli decision about all DMM boxes.

 

So Erik Slagter is right this need to be clarified in the comparison sheet.

 

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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #33 Erik Slagter

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 14:06

The et9200 also supports DTS-HD, DTS-HD-MA and DTS-HD-HRA, if you want to add that to the comparision sheet.

But I don't know whether DTS-HD is a generic name for DTS-HD-MA and DTS-HD-HRA, or if that is a special codec.

I think DTS-HD is specific enough for most users.


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #34 pieterg

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 17:59

Then the first STB are the DMM ones... the page needs to be reorganised and clearly mention the Openpli decision about all DMM boxes.

The dmm boxes mentioned in the wiki are supported by openpli.
We just gave the warning that future changes might break compatibility, and we will no longer spend time to work around such issues, might they occur.

Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #35 Pr2

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 18:48

OK but I still think that you need to write this in the comparison sheet... so no confusion in people mind...

Personnally I don't care because I know your decision and I have no DMM STB.


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #36 gorski

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 22:08

Hmmm, not to go OT but now that Xtrend support forum is closing - will there still be "business as usual" at ET end?!?


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #37 WanWizard

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 22:16

As far as I understand (but I could be wrong) that forum had nothing to do with Xtrend (the manufacturer).

 

The domain is owned by one ferrari3005, registered on his (her?) own personal ISP email address. So it's a private person.


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Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #38 ozkaradag

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 14:36

Thank you for comparison and specs.

 

Vu+ supports Audio Codec DTS-HD&DTS-HD-MA. ;)

 

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Which exact receiver?

All models supports DTS-HD-MA.


Re: OpenPLi supported receivers comparison #39 Erik Slagter

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 16:55

I've incorporated all comments above.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 10:59

As you have upgraded the Vu boxes to the bsp layer, the Linux kernel version is outdated, it should be 3.9.6. ;) That being said, I just posted this to bring it to everyones attention that there are still no entries for the SE and the Z3ro. Btw is there any format preferred when supplying any data?

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