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#1 Rob van der Does

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:35

The function of 'All satellites 1' in tuner config is clear: all satellites that are not defined elsewhere in the tuner config, can be set by this option.

Now the question is: what are 'All satellites 2/3/4' meant to do?

Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #2 littlesat

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:54

Probably when you have a rotor on tuner A and a rotor on tuner B???


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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #3 Rob van der Does

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:07

???? The setting is available per tuner (i.e. all tuners have the option to use 'all satellites1/2/3/4').

Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #4 gerard0610

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:53

For you information:

My USALS rotor is connected to 'Tuner B' and this is set to 'All Satellite 1' and is operating oké.



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #5 Huevos

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 23:49

So E2 can select a compatible LNB for what you are trying to receive. Here's an example... All sats1 set up as Ku (universal). All sats2 set with C-band LNB. All sats 3 Ka-band LNB, etc. Then E2 decides which LNB is compatible with what you are trying to receive. This is fact, not a guess.



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #6 Rob van der Does

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:06

Thanks, I would never have guessed this kind of 'intelligence' in E2.
And strange to see that no one on the PLi-board knows this; I asked the same question several times before.

Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #7 littlesat

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:05

Probably they are only a handfull of people using this... That was also why i stuggled with this part when i added 32 lnbs (that should there from the beginning) as i do not have a rotor anymore... So i had to commit it untested... And I hope you understand that it is not done to setup a dish with rotor just for testing this...

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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #8 Dimitrij

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:07

May need to change the names of options,e.g. All satellites 1 (Ku-band) and etc...


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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #9 Dimitrij

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:11

    advanced_satlist_choices = nimmgr.satList + [
        (3601, _('All satellites')+' 1 (Ku-band)', 1), (3602, _('All satellites')+' 2 (C-band)', 1),
        (3603, _('All satellites')+' 3 (Ka-band)', 1), (3604, _('All satellites')+' 4', 1)]

 

But I do not know All satellites 4?????


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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #10 Rob van der Does

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:26

But as I understand it that would diminish the options. Now E2 is free to make the choice automated.

Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #11 Rob van der Does

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:57

Probably they are only a handfull of people using this...

 

Chicken and egg: the setting will hardly be used as nobody knows (knew) what it does.

 

 

But as I understand it that would diminish the options. Now E2 is free to make the choice automated.

 

But thinking about it, that doesn't seem to be a real limitation. And indeed it would make things clear.

And an other suggestion: When using one or more of the 'all satellites' then indeed all compatible satellites will be assigned (i.e. 360 degrees around the world). Not a real issue, but cosmetic (in Satfinder now satellites at the other side of the world can be chosen). So maybe an eastern and a western limit could be set, so the setting can match the actual situation for the user.


Edited by SatKiekerd, 22 April 2014 - 07:58.


Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #12 gerard0610

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:33


And an other suggestion: When using one or more of the 'all satellites' then indeed all compatible satellites will be assigned (i.e. 360 degrees around the world). Not a real issue, but cosmetic (in Satfinder now satellites at the other side of the world can be chosen). So maybe an eastern and a western limit could be set, so the setting can match the actual situation for the user.

I use the rotating list from 'Hans'. In this way I have  my limits in the daily operation



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #13 Rob van der Does

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:36


And an other suggestion: When using one or more of the 'all satellites' then indeed all compatible satellites will be assigned (i.e. 360 degrees around the world). Not a real issue, but cosmetic (in Satfinder now satellites at the other side of the world can be chosen). So maybe an eastern and a western limit could be set, so the setting can match the actual situation for the user.

I use the rotating list from 'Hans'. In this way I have  my limits in the daily operation

The settings list in use makes no difference (unless it holds a limited satellites.xml). Since you're using 'all satellites': If you go to satfinder, you can chose satellites you can't even receive.



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #14 Huevos

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:29

But as I understand it that would diminish the options. Now E2 is free to make the choice automated.

Exactly. My post was just an example. For example there is more than one Ka band. And there are lots of different LNB types for Ku. So maybe one LNB is low band Ku and the other is high band Ku. Etc, etc. Trying to add a label would make this inflexible.



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #15 malakudi

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:16

4 options for "all satellites" can also be used if you want to have more than one USALS motor for Ku band. Then enigma2 would move the dish that is not in use.



Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #16 Huevos

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:32

Probably they are only a handfull of people using this...

If OpenPLi really does have 300,000 users I'm sure there would be more than a handful using this.


Edited by Huevos, 22 April 2014 - 11:34.


Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #17 WanWizard

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 16:50

You keep on hinting that you don't believe that number... ;)

A quick check of the logs shows that 283217 unique IP's ran an update of an OpenPLi E2 box in the last 4 weeks.

This number could contain doubles (people who's public IP address changed in the 4 week period), but on the other hand it doesn't count people owning multiple boxes, and it also doesn't see people that have flashed the image but never did an online update. I could check image downloads too, but a download doesn't mean an install.

So i'd say that give or take a percentage, the number is pretty accurate... :)

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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #18 Rob van der Does

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 17:03

You keep on hinting that you don't believe that number... ;)

Interpretation.....
Actually Huevos hints on not believing only a handful of that number will use this configuration :)

Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #19 Dimitrij

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 17:15

Huevos

Please reply.

http://openpli.org/f...ndpost&p=418719


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Re: 'All satellites' in tuner config #20 Huevos

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 17:53

Huevos

Please reply.

http://openpli.org/f...ndpost&p=418719

I think it should be left how it is. That way the user is free to configure it how they please.




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