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[rimas]

OpenPLi has fantastic subtitles, but there is one problem - national characters are not showing properly. For example õ shows as ¤
2SUB was able to show those characters. It would be nice to see all subtitles correctly.

[pieterg]

sounds like an incomplete font. Or your subtitles have the wrong charset. Which subtitles are you talking about? teletext?

[rimas]

Teletext. I tried with several fonts, which I know are working.

[pieterg]

Then most likely the teletext is not in the specified charset, so the conversion to utf-8 (by e2) fails

[rimas]

So there is nothing to do? But teletext shows those characters. You know - page 696 /images/smiley/wink.gif

[pieterg]

can you make a (short) recording, which contains a few subtitles which fail?

[rimas]

http://www.upload.ee...Premium.ts.html
http://www.upload.ee...emium_2.ts.html

[pieterg]

which one do I need?
And at how many seconds do the problems occur?

[inah]

First stream is small õ TTX 696 00.00.22-00.00.26

Second stream is BIG Õ and small õ together 00.00.30-00.00.33 TTX page 696

[pieterg]

hm, both fragments do not play here (tried on dm8000).
Do they still work, if you download them, and put them in an empty folder? (so you don't have the corresponding meta files)

I can play them with a mediaplayer on the pc, so the data is ok, but something causes e2 not to start them.
Which might be interesting to investigate, but not related to your charset problem.

[inah]

hm, both fragments do not play here (tried on dm8000).
something causes e2 not to start them.

Which might be interesting to investigate, but not related to your charset problem.

Maybe because i use for cutting ProjectX 0.90.4

[pieterg]

I think there might be no pmt in the ts, just video/audio/txt pids?
e2 does not guess the pids, it requires a pmt section, somewhere at the beginning.

[pieterg]

perhaps you could cut a fragment with the 'moviecutter' plugin on the box itself. That should work.

[mbo]

Hi,
not related stright to this thread but I got similar problem with Polish EPG, same behaviour. It worked perfect with PLI default skin and appeared when I changed it to LT6-HD. This info might be usefull for the problem in subject and maybe the potential solution will fix mine
Cheers

[VU+NL]

Some time ago the fonts in the Magic-skins have been changed, exactly for that reason.
You might ask the skin-makers to do the same.

[mbo]

Some time ago the fonts in the Magic-skins have been changed, exactly for that reason.
You might ask the skin-makers to do the same.

Thanks.

I think the problem I got is that I live in Australia and my box is set to English and I use few Polish channels.
I did fix the problem by altering the file (as above) and I manually added ISO8859-2 encoding.

I got now all polish specific characters working ok, however they are "fat" and distinguish themself from the other text.
Getting closer

Regards,
Michal

[VU+NL]

.....I did fix the problem by altering the file (as above) and I manually added ISO8859-2 encoding.....

Could you explain in some more detail as to what you changed (what do you mean by "as above", and how did you add the encoding)?

[inah]

OK new try now everything working in dreambox
http://www.upload.ee...Premium.ts.html

[pieterg]

just done a quick test, with tuxtxt on the estonian subtitle page (669 if I remember correctly), I also get those missing characters.
I'm using the 'auto charset detection' in tuxtxt, which is the default setting.
You are probably overriding the charset, in order to get the desired results with tuxtxt?

If so, that indeed indicates that the reported charset is wrong.
Perhaps this can be overridden with the 'encoding' file. Not sure if the encoding file is just for epg data, or for subtitle data as wel.
But using this file is tricky, especially when a transponder contains several channels, each with several subtitle languages, and possibly epg languages as well.
You risk breaking other languages.

[rimas]

Yes, I set tuxtext charset manually to estonian.
EPG on those channels in one language,